Sunday, April 01, 2007

The War on Drugs...
Drugs must be one of the most hotly debated subjects ever. Ranging from politicians to Church leaders, to your everyday person, drugs are a huge subject of debate. I have touched earlier on the drug issue, but here I will present more ideas and open the comment box up for a friendly debate. However, previous comment rules still apply and charity in the discussion must be used no matter what side you are on.
First of all, as a Christian and Catholic who believes in the Bible and in what the Church teaches I have no doubt on this subject: Drugs (except for strictly medical purposes) are wrong. The Catechism of the Catholic Church in #2291 says: "The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law."
The Bible has many passages condemning drunkenness (a.k.a. intoxication) and there are at least two references in the Bible that strongly condemn "pharmakeia" the primary translation being "the use or the administering of drugs". Passage references condemning intoxication include: Galatians 5:19-21, Revelation 9:20-21, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, 19-20, 1 Peter 5:8
1 Corinthians 6:9-10: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God." Drunkenness in intoxication can be achieved through alcohol or other drugs. The Bible is saying here that those people who engage in drunkenness will not enter Heaven. This makes a very clear statement that marijuana can not be compatible with a Christian as marijuana can never be used without abuse.
As I have pointed out earlier marijuana and all drugs are harmful to your health and therefore damaging of the body (and soul) that God has given us for Him to dwell in. For those people who are claiming that cannabis (marijuana) is actually something holy and is a part of a sacrament, then I challenge them to ask why would God would institute a substance for religious purposes that is harmful to your mental and physical health? Why would the Bible shout out so loudly that intoxication is wrong yet promote intoxication within its sacraments?
An argument given for marijuana is that in Exodus 30:23 cannabis is one of the ingredients for the holy oil, yet remember that that is only a theory. As pointed out from Wiki-Pedia, "The Septuagint translates kaneh-bosm as calamus" which is not cannabis.
Let's look at another problem with this holy oil turned sacrament theory: It's novelty. Now just because it's new doesn't prove it's wrong, but it should lead us to suspicion. It would be claimed by believers of this, of course, that this sacrament was preached by Jesus and the early Church Fathers yet where do we see this recorded? Where do the apostles go around preaching the importance of this sacrament? Drugs have long (meaning back around Jesus time at least) been associated with witchcraft and black magic and therefore would have been rejected as this stuff was condemned by the authors of the Bible and --oh yea--God. Baptism is preached by Jesus and the apostles as the first essential element for being saved---but not baptism with cannabis oil.
What about God saying when He created the Earth "'Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food.'"
You have to be pretty stupid to translate that as God saying every plant is OK to consume---at least now living in a fallen world (Don't forget that God said that before the fall.). Are you going eat poisonous mushrooms? No. Yet those mushrooms play a role in the ecosystem. Will you play with King Cobras? No. yet cobras have their proposes on earth. Cannabis is good for making rope--yet I know of nothing else yet, and God creating marijuana doesn't mean it was meant to be smoked and for intoxication.
How can I believe that God would promote a drug? The culture of drugs have torn nations apart, brought murder, death, torn apart relationships, and more. How can I believe God wants a drug used in a sacrament when he condemns drugs?
I don't mean to be presumptuous and I know some people may indeed be sincere, but this theory seems like an excuse to allow for an action clearly condemned by God.
Sorry if I seemed to ramble on here, and if you have specific questions I will do my best to answer them. Comments posted here may be used for further publication on this blog.
"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God? You are not your own. You were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body." (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
"Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking some one to devour." (1 Peter 5:8)


Charley said...

I like your post here, but I do believe that there is one slight gap in the logic of your argument; you leave no room for addicts to enter the kingdom of God. I've known many holy men and women that fell pray to the evils of addiction, and despite their best efforts, were unable to break the addiction, or even mount the courage to try. Addiction is a disease that poisons the ability to judge.

Another area to consider when it comes to drugs - I assume you are talking about the abuse of legal drugs, or the use of illegal substances. There are many holy brothers and sisters in the world that use medication to help them deal with depression, anxiety, etc.

Just some thoughts,

Terry said...

Greetings Catholic Warrior.

Somehow your post has again come to me from Google news alerts under my web site

If you actually buy the Calamus translation for the Holy Oil, then you assume that God specified in Exodus 30:23 a drug commonly known as Ecstasy. Now there is little doubt this was used in second temple. It is recorded that flies would flee from the temple. Calamus contains a poison called aserone. This is a hallucinogen which is metabolized in the liver as trimethoxyamphetamine or ecstasy. This is deadly to flies and other insects.

The Hebrew in the Bible within Exodus 30:23 is kaneh-bosm. There is just no doubt about it. My research here on the baptism is that this anointing with Gods holy oil is essential to becoming a Christian or an anointed one. Revelation 7 discusses the return of the seal of God. Anti-Christ equates to opposed to or instead of the anointing. The Bible states that there were many Anti-Christ's even in the time of Paul.

Your arguments regarding pharmakeia and the use of cannabis in witchcraft is just a joke to me. Perhaps in your world we should just shut down all doctors all pharmacies. Are these people all practitioners of witchcraft? Did Jesus or the apostles not heal with the holy oil?

Now I have read some of your stuff regarding the heretics as you call them . What I would really like to know is how do you justify the 50,000,000 religious murders committed by the Roman Catholic Church. Perhaps we should burn more people at the stake, throw more people in prisons. And why, because they don't believe as you do, and the Bible told me so?. Perhaps we will see at the second coming what salvation these cannabis users will have. Perhaps then we will know who the true heretics are.

Terry Winger
"The Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments"

Greg said...

The recent discovery of the "Cave of John the Baptist", the millions of pottery shards and the footplace cut in stone for the anointing rite leaves no question in the mind of an objective observer what that baptism was really all about. The priests of that day condemned John as having a devil for he baptized with the blessed oil of Moses that contained KNH spice. The priests of this day condemn those who honor the Word of the Lord Jesus Anointed. Recall if you can the lesson of the Good Samaritan or pass by on your way to hell. In Jude, "Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core." v. 10 In Mark, "Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed; when He cometh in the glory of His Father with the holy angels." viii. 38.

Terry said...


I just wanted to wish all a very happy Easter. If we agree or disagree, we are all Christians. Perhaps through discussion of our differences, we will all come closer to Jesus Christ.

May God Bless
Happy Easter

Terry Winger

PBXVI said...

Terry, thank you so much for being such a gentleman! Happy Easter to you, and I mean to respond to your posts soon! May God Bless you always!

To the rest of you: I mean to respond very soon as well! God Bless and thanks for the feedback!


Terry said...

Dear Catholic Warrior,
Thank you for your kind words and I did have a Happy Easter. Since you stated that you were going to look into my arguments I thought I would give you my research here so we don’t have to go around and around on it.

Calamus vs Cannabis In the Holy Oil ????

I previously stated that if you actually buy the Calamus translation for the Holy Oil, then you assume that God specified in Exodus 30:23 a drug commonly known as Ecstasy. Calamus contains an ingredient called aserone. This is a hallucinogen which is metabolized in the liver as trimethoxyamphetamine or ecstasy. The Middle Eastern version of this plant is far more toxic than it`s North American Cousin. This is deadly to flies and other insects.

The Exodus 30:23 reference refers to sweet Calamus. If you look at this in the Strong’s concordance where they spell this as qaneh rather than kaneh, they pronounce this as Kaw-Naw, a reed, calamus, and cane are listed as possible translations.

The term sweet used in Exodus 30:23 in Hebrew is Bosem.
According to the Webster's New World Hebrew Dictionary, Bosem is perfume; scent. The Concordance: the Hebrew is Bosem #1314, fragrance, by impl. spicery; also the balsam plant:----smell, spice, sweet (odour). In some Bibles sweet calamus is translated as aromatic or fragrant Cane.

It is where the bosem is fused to the word kaneh or qaneh that the cannabis translation becomes apparent. So then to pronounce this we have kaw-naw-bosem, and is spelled in English qaneh-bosem or kaneh-bosem. In 1936, Sara Benetowa, later Known as Sula Benet, an etymologist from the Institute of Anthropological Sciences, in Warsaw wrote a treatise, "Tracing One Word Through Different Languages."
This was a study on the word Cannabis, based on a study of the oldest Hebrew texts. Although the word cannabis was thought to be of Scythian origin, Benet's research showed it had an earlier root in the Semitic Languages such as Hebrew. Benet demonstrated that the ancient Hebrew word for Cannabis is Kaneh -Bosem.
She also did another study called Early Diffusion and Folk Uses of Hemp. There is a reprint of this in Cannabis and Culture ISBN:90-279-7669-4. On page 44, she states, "The sacred character of hemp in biblical times is evident from Exodus 30:23, where Moses was instructed by God to anoint the meeting tent and all of its furnishings with specially prepared oil, containing hemp."
On page 41 Sula Benet writes, : In the course of time, the two words kaneh and bosem were fused into one , kanabos or kannabus know to us from the Mishna.
According to the Webster's New World Hebrew Dictionary, page 607 the Hebrew for hemp is kanabos.

You argued previously that the Anointing with the cannabis based oil has no redeeming value.

I would like to quoted a couple early Christians, that it was by this anointing that we became Christians:
For the Father anointed the Son, and the Son anointed the Apostles, and the Apostles anointed us.
The Chrism or (anointing) is superior to baptism, for it is from the word chrism that we are called Christians. Gospel of Phillip.
Are you unwilling to be anointed with the Oil of God? Wherefore we are called Christians on this account, because we are anointed with the Oil of God. Theophilus of Antioch (181AD)

I would also like to point out that all Orthodox Churches practice the Chrism anointing. What started me into The Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments is that not one Church uses the Holy Anointing Oil as described in Exodus 30:23 even with the Calamus translation.

Regarding your pharmakeia argument and the association with cannabis in witchcraft.
There are Greek references to Pharmakeia in the Book of Revelation and translated into sorcery in most modern Bibles. Also cannabis became associated with witchcraft during the inquisition where millions were burnt at the stake. Many modern theologians argue this against cannabis users and perpetuate the war against cannabis and its use. I honestly do not think that this refers to drug use or healing with drugs. Sorcery does have associations with making potions as a part of worshiping other Gods and even Satan. Should we try to shut down all pharmacies and all doctors. Should we build more prisons, burn millions more at the stake, continue to declare others heretics. Jesus taught us differently than this.
But this is really not what I am after. I am trying to return the Seal of God, Revelation 7.

May God Bless
Terry Winger